Monday, May 24, 2010

Do Komodo Dragons have any teeth? Can you send pics if they have any teeth?


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yes
I didn't see any teeth in this pixs
They do not have teeth. They do have slavia that breaks down the tissue. I looked but it did not show teeth but there skull shows it does.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10...
I believe that line of white near the edge of the mouth would be the teeth. I had an iguana once, and his teeth were the same; very difficult to see but razor sharp.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/eden/images...
http://www.boneclones.com/images/sc-027_...

Do i put the heating mat at the bottom of vivarium or under it? its glass and standing on a wood stand.?


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Under on side of tank. The other side is for your pet to cool off.
Heating mats always go under the tank not inside.. For one main reason they get really warm and a reptile can actually burn his underside by lying on it and another you do not have the cord up and out an also if it is an animal that needs to be sprayed for humidity you are not spraying an electrical cord, also if you hae a light source put the heat mat and light source on the same side so there is a cool side and a warm side to the tank also put the water dish on oppisite side of the heat for the same reason so they can go in it to get cool and also water evaporates more on the warmer side, so it will run dry quicker..
I would go with, Debbie W's answer, that's the best advise you can get right there!
Always put it under the glass NEVER in your tank.
Always under...otherwise you'll have a scorched lizzie :(
My mat sits on a 12mm thick piece of polystyrefoam, which protects the wood stand (they usally sell this in the sish section of pet stores). I've found that I don't need to leave my heat mat on for vey long, it heats up very fast and can make the glass bottom of the tank quite hot.
Good luck :)

Do I need a bigger tank for my Red Ear Sliders?

I have two in two tanks. One is "large flat" the other is "large tall".
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/pr...
I'd like to get them into the same tank, with a filter and more than 2-3" of water. These turtles are about 5" and I know they will grow much larger. I'm thinking at least a 30 breeder that is 36x18x12. Is this enough?
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The rule of thumb for Red-ears and other pond turtles is about 10 gallons of water per inch of turtle shell length. A 5" turtle by itself should be in 50 gallons of water- or about a 75 gallon tank. to put your two 5" turtles together would be best in about 100 gallons of water, a very large plastic tub, a kiddie pond, etc.
It should not come as a shock that a species that in the wild likes a LOT of space needs big spaces in captivity. While many people, even some zoos, violate this guideline with minimal bad results, there are good reasons for the bigger tanks.
Big tanks help minimize things like stress and stress-related concerns, aggression, excessive shedding, water fouling, disease transmission, and so on.
Sadly, Red-ears get big. Many experts suggest that adult Red-ears should only be kept in very large outdoor ponds.
Yo can learn more about these guys at http://www.redearslider.com

Oh, and the bit about shallow water being good or safer- that is an old wives tale retailers made up a few decades ago to sell those stupid turtle-killing plastic bowls. What logic is there that an aquatic turtle cannot swim if given the chance and a good basking site to rest on?
get a ten to 20 gallon tank !!!
For babies you should be fine, but for a full grown slider you need a pond, they can be 10" across, so maybe plan for that rather than just the immediate future.
very wise a 5" turtle can drown in 2" water if it finds itself upside down it ideally needs 6" water mine like standing in the water at 45 degrees on there back legs with there snout out my 15yr old female is 9.5"long my male is 7" they were in a 36x18x18 for about 12yrs so i would say the tank you propose is fine but bigger is always better ;-).
Here is a list of common glass aquarium sizes.
Note: Volume and dimensions are estimates based on manufacturer information. Try to personally check this information before purchasing any kind of tank.
Gallons L x W x H (inches) Liters L x W x H (cm)
20 long 30 x 12 x 12 76 long 76 x 30 x 30
29 30 x 12 x 18 110 76 x 30 x 46
30 long 36 x 12 x 17 114 long 92 x 31 x 43
30 breeder 36 x 18 x12 114 breeder 93 x 46 x 30
40 48 x 13 x 16 152 122 x 33 x 41
40 long 36 x 18 x 13 152 long 93 x 46 X 33
40 breeder 36 x 18 x 16 152 breeder 93 x 46 x 41
50 36 x 18 x 18 190 93 x 46 x46
50 long 48 x 18 x 13 190 long 122 x 46 x 33
75 48 x 18 x 20 285 122 x 46 x 51
90 48 x 18 x 24 342 122 x 46 x 61
100 60 x 18 x 20 380 153 x 46 x 51
135 72 x 18 x 24 513 182 x 46 x 61
u need a bigger tank if u want a filtr and everything else like that
Yes, it is enough, but to make them more happier you should get a pond in your yard. put a dozen of guppies in the pond and the turtles will eat them. dont worry, all you need is a pond

Do I just clean my turtle's tank out with a sponge and water?

Or is there some kind of product that I should use?
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Speaking from experience here.sponge and water is good. You can also use vinegar. But make sure you completely rinse it. Vinegar is safer then bleach!! I also have 2 algae eaters in their tank and a flying fox. They haven't bothered them yet...I own 4 of them...
If you have a good filtration system happening you don't need to clean as much.
I have my turtle tank down to a science..Turn filter off...feed.scoop poop and leftover food..turn filter on again.
Use a razor blade to clean the glass!!!!!
This should be fine, just don't use any household cleaning products, eg bleach, detergent as this could kill your turtle. you probably can get special products for the job, but there is no real need for them.
I know that turtles are carriers of salmonella so I would be very careful with turtles. The stagnant water and their body's bacteria can cause this. I would use rubber gloves and use bleach to clean the tank. Bleach is the only thing that kills bacteria, even the Aid's virus and then dries up, not causing harm to the animal. It takes about 15 mins. for sanitation at 10% chlorine to water and then allow it to dry completely and air out before putting the turtle back in. Google it to make sure. Good luck.
You can use a beach-water solution. Do, 3 parts water 1 part bleach. After you scrub it down, make sure you rinse it out really good.
just put ur turtle and every thing else out side and wash out the tank then add water and add every thing else back in the easiest way is to just get a filter
just take it outside and use a water hose and clean it WARNING if you put water in it will be very very VERY heavy

Do i Have to pay for a pet deposit even if it's a lizard?!?

I'm planning to get a leopard gecko for years! And i have experiences and I have enounter dogs, chickens, rabbits and birds! How can i convince my landlord to let me have a lizard? wat if she say no?
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If she says no you can always sneak it past her. It's not like geckos are noisy animals. But for some reason, a lot of places have quit allowing reptiles. The only thing to do would be to ask and find out what she says then decide what to do from there.
At my apartment complex they only required a pet deposit for cats and dogs. Caged animals did not count in the pet limit, and did not need a deposit.
I don't see why she would say no, they are not a dangerous animal and have to be kept in a cage.

Do i have a good hermit crab habitat?

i have 2 water bowls with a sponge and fresh water , sand ,some molch thing ,shells ,a fake tree,food,a hermit crab hut , and real wood?
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It sounds good, but one of your water bowls should have saltwater in it. Hermits, except for Ecuadorans, come from the ocean, and need to have some saltwater for bathing and drinking.
See this link for more on the setup: http://www.thecrabbagepatch.com/...
Sounds good! Just make sure they have enough room to roam around.
it sounds nice, in a tank right? with a good lid, right? they can climb, keep that in mind. we have a nice hermit crag named marc..don't ask..and he loved his tank...we have a light too to make sure his temp in there stays at about 75-80 and keep him humid and dont forget to bathe him periodically, not with soap...just a nice water bath. ours hold his sponge like a teddy bear.
The water bowls have to be deep, you really only need a sponge if you're using it to keep the humidity up, the sand should be damp (like that you would use to make a sandcastle) and it should be 4"-5" thick. Keep in mind real wood will probably mold in a few weeks unless it's cholla wood or something. Your tank should be at least 10 gallons and it need a cover to keep the humidity in. You also need a hygrometer to measure the humidity and a thermometer to measure the temp. You also need salt water, it is crucial to hermit crabs survival.
What is the humdity and temp? do you have a hygrometer and thermometer, and good crabitat depends on these things. Here is a caresheet to see if you are really meeting the needs of your pet
Housing/Crabitat:
no smaller than a 10 gallon glass tank, is preferable. A glass or plexiglass lid is also preferable, to keep proper temperature and humidity.
Temperature: 74-78 degrees F (thermometer)
Humidity: 70-80% relative (hygrometer)
Substrate:
moistened playsand, Forestbedding (Eco-Earth, Bed-a-Beast, etc). Moss and calcisand may also be added to the tank, however it is not recommended as a main substrate. minimum 3" deep or 2 1/2 times as deep as your tallest crab is tall if you have anything bigger then a micro.
Diet:
Commercial crab foods, Vegetables (favorites include-carrots, lettuce, parsley, spinach, and corn), Fruits (favorites include-coconut, mango, apples, grapes, and pears), Meats (seafood, silversides and chicken are favorites), Grains, Peanut butter, eggs, seeds, algae and seaveggies. Please see http://www.epicureanhermit.com for a list of other edible foods.
Purple pinchers need both fresh and salt water (dechlorinated %26 salt made with a good marine salt like Oceanic).
Shells:
Turbo, pica/magpie, Sharks eye. Shells with circular openings are favorites
Molting:
-Lethargic before and hyper after molting
-Legs tend to be dry and ashy pre-molt
-Will sometimes molt without a molt sac or other pre-molting symptoms
-Are thirsty and hungry pre-molt and post-molt
Other Characteristics:
-Sweet/nice temperament
-Love to climb
-Love to crowd into piles
-Not as active as other species such as the Es
-Like to hide during the day and are most active at night
-More willing to pinch if they feel threatened/scared
-Love to change shells
-Love to eat and climb on wood such as cholla/choya and corkbark

Do i feed the insects dead or alive?


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depends on what your feeding usually alive
Alive
I always use alive
you feed them alive so the reptile has to catch them and use thier hunting instinct
no
Alive...my lizard wouldn't eat anything if the crickets were dead.
when you feed it feed it when it is alive so it won't die.
It depends on what you're feeding them to, whether they can hurt what you're feeding, and how the thing you're feeding prefers them. We can't give you a good answer based on the information you provided.
Feed the insects to your reptile or fish or whatever 'as you get them from the store' ... if they were purchased 'live' feed them to your 'critter' live, if they were purchased 'dead' (and you aren't being 'scammed' into buying something that shouldn't be sold) feed them 'dead.' I know it's really simple and sort of 'stupid' but your question was really a good one ... sometimes the 'simple ones' make the most difference.
You can do either, but I would always give my bearded dragon LIVE crickets. BUt if you buy them live give them live if you buy them dead... you have no choice.
You should feed insects alive not only to entertain your frog, but also to create an illusion of its natural habitat. Feeding them dead would not only confuse your frog, but there might be a small chance that your pet won't be able to find his meal since it is not attracting its attention.
i,would,feed,them,live,until,i... s/q.
depends if it is alive
ALIVE
Alive...

Do gartner snakes eat moth crystals?


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I don't think so. It's recommended that you use moth balls as a safe way to keep snakes away. I use them under my pool deck. I never found any dead snakes.
Gardner snakes eat mostly small insects such as crickets grasshoppers and things like that they may eat moths and butterfly's but they'd have to be easily caught.
no they like thier food to be live and kickin, they eat soft shelled insects, especially crickets

Do fancy hamsters fight and do dwarf hamsters fight?


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yes. Hamsters are solitary animals and keeping two together will generaly result in fighting and possibly death
(p.s. hamsters are rodents, not reptiles)
Honey, you posted this in the wrong section. Hamsters should be under the "rodent" category. Not the "reptile".
And to answer your question: hamsters (regardless of species) often are aggressive toward one another
hamsters do not like living with other hamsters they would kill each other so yes.

Do crickets like cardbard?

I just want to know because i want to catch them with a jar with something to lure them with
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The behavior of the cricket is to try and climb up to where it is warmer (or climb down). They like heat.
One night I woke up to a loose cricket in my hand. It was a bit interesting lol
Crickets will eat raw potatoes. But good luck catching one, they're very fast.
if you want to really lure them get egg cartons or get gut load. you need to watch them to make sure you can catch them.

Do corn snakes lay eggs, even if they are not fertilised?//?

my snake layed 3 eggs (or what seemed to be eggs) a few days ago. they were yellowish in color and about 1/2 inch long.
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Yes, snakes can lay unfertilized eggs. They are known as slugs and some females will produce them every year even if they aren't bred. As long as she has safely passed them, I wouldn't worry about it. The eggs will not be fertile and you can safely throw them away. Be aware she might do this next year and you might want to provide a nest box for her so that she doesn't retain eggs looking for a suitable nest spot. Many times the female will ovulate and then reabsorb the eggs so next year she may or may not lay them.
snakes wont lay eggs for the hell of it like chickens do...the eggs are fertilized when they are made...meaning, the second that snakes mate, an egg is produced...
No, candle light them to see if they are fertile (put a flashlight under them). It is possible that your snake was gravid when you bought her.
I'm not sure. I have a 9-10 year old Mangrove Monitor Lizard female and she has NEVER been any were close to a lizard, let alone another male lizard and she lays eggs all the time, then eats them. they aren't fertile, they are flat and soft. I have never understood why she does this, but she does. I do not think snakes do the same thing, I would call a herpetologist and ask.
Gallianomom gave you the best answer. Yes, snakes do both, lay eggs that are not unfertilized, and sometimes reabsorb unfertilized eggs. Strangely enough, the same snake will do either...

Do chinese water dragons sleep underwater? or breathe underwater?

my chinese water dragon keeps on going into the water and there are big rocks in the water. it gets in between the rocks and justs lays there. then i put it back on its sleeping platform thing (a log with a flat top) but it gets back into the water and moves around really fast like it is drowning.
the water is 2 inches deep. the dragon is about 4-5 months old. and it is 3 inches long not including the tail.
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mine is about 8 or 9 months old, and from tip to tail, he's probably somewhere between a foot and a half to two feet long.
but mine seems to hate the darn water. sometimes he'll sit on the edge of his tub, so just his tail is in there, but if we put him in, all he does is climb out as soon as possible.
i STILL have no idea what the heck temperature the water should be at. SOMEONE needs to put that to an exact degree. this whole "pee warm, lukewarm' bussiness is useless. there's huge differences between what i might think is lukewarm and what my boyfriend thinks.
anyways. as we don't have a heater, we assume that the water will become room temperature after a while anyways, but our guy won't ever get in the water. wich is bad, cause he has massive problems shedding. but yeah. how do you trian yours to actually acknoledge the "water' part of their names??
no not really
This behavior is normal. They can't breathe underwater but they enjoy soaking frequently.
both because he is a fish and i asked the petstore and yea just to make sure ask a pet expert!
WAT THE FRICK IS A CHINESE WATER DRAGON (doing in th water??) ???!!!
Check out this website for good info!
http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/...

Do black or King snakes keep away poisonous snakes.?

I have always heard that you should not kill non-poisonous snakes because they will keep the poisonous snakes away. Like copperheads and rattlesnakes will not come around if there are black snakes,king snakes or garner snakes around your house. Is this true?
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King snakes eat mammals, birds, even other reptiles! Some king snakes live completely on rattle snakes (many of which are bigger than the king snakes!)
-quirks an eyebrow- Let me see if I'm understanding what you're saying: You SHOULD kill poisonous snakes? -scowls- Well sure, let's go and blame the snake and mess up the food chain. Good ra, just leave them alone!
yes ... expecally king snakes they are faster then most of your rattlers or other snakes. they do eat other snakes and rodents.
IM not sure about garter snakes, but i knw for sure king snakes keep ALL snakes away usually poisonous or not. They are just known for killing poisonous snakes like rattlers because hardly any other species will.
It's true that you should not kill ANY snakes, venomous or not.
However, kingsnakes do not seek out other snakes. Yes, they will eat other snakes, including venomous, on occasion, but their diet consists mostly of rodents and birds.
Black rat snakes seldom eat other snakes; Black racers, like kingsnakes, will if the opportunity presents itself.
Garter snakes do not eat other snakes.
One more time: King snakes DO NOT keep venomous snakes away!

Do ball pythons grow to their enviroment and surrounding [how big their cage is]?

so im more than likely gonna buy a ball python...a small baby one...so if i keep it in a small i think 10 gallon fish tank...will it keep growing to were i have to buy a bigger cage,or do they grow depending on the size of there cages[like fish do]
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first of all... its a myth that fish grow depending on the size of their enclosures... fish (unless they are a small type) will keep growing to their adult size.. (like gold fish... they get around 12-16 inches)...
a baby ball python will do ok in a 10 gallon but a 20 gallon long would be better and you could keep it in the 20 gallon long until it is about 2-3 feet then a 40 gallon would be needed.. and the 40 gallon would be able to be used for the rest of the snake's life unless you want to have a custom tank built
Monty Pythons grow to be 8ft tall
No, that is a myth. An animal that is kept in too small a tank will suffer health problems which will affect it's growth. A full grown snake will need at least a 30 gallon tank (a 55 would be ideal). They typically grow up to 4 feet long in captivity, but can reach 6 feet.
http://www.anapsid.org/ball.html...
http://www.kingsnake.com/ballpythonguide...
http://my.pclink.com/~dkelley/python.htm...
they grow HUGE and you will eventually have 2 get sum really REALLY exspensive cage sooner or later(if you buy it)
No. They will continue to grow eventually they will be too big for the cage.
When they out grow the cage you have to get a new one. But don't worry Ball Pythons don't grow too big. Normally around about 5 feet long. But not much longer.
Good Luck with your Ball Python
Krstl
ball pythons get between 4 and 6 feet long, so a ten gallon will do it for a long time, but it eventually will need a bigger tank, a 30-40 gallon will work great.
BTW technically you could keep it in a ten and it would stop growing before it reached its full size but it would be very cramped and uncomfortable.
You're gonna need a 40 gallon tank for when they get older my boyfriend wants one too we researched them very well. They get up to like 80lbs and can be as long as 6ft in length. Generally tho they wont get any bigger than 4ft.

Diseases?

What kind of dieases can a snake get? How do you treat them? Are they fatal?
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Various ranging from internal parasites to impaction to external parasites. Home remedies are not the way to treat what you have not even diagnosed correctly. A visit to the vet ends up saving you money in the end, and extending the life of the snake
Snakes can suffer from a variety of things, not just diseases, such as dehydration (demonstrated by longitudinal and vertical folds of skin, an apparent lack of supple appearance when coiled, and by a pervasive "dried" look); ectoparasites (mites and ticks) (ticks are easier to deal with than mites, in that they are bigger and present in only small amounts, and are also readily seen; mites are more difficult, in that they are smaller and are often in large numbers); stress; burns, bites, and abscesses; respiratory distress (prolonged cold temperatures, especially in damp situations, can cause a cold or pneumonia); infectious stomatitis (mouth rot) (areas of white, cheesy-looking material along the gums of the snake and can be caused by stress, mouth injuries, or unsanitary caging); blister disease (caused by a bacterial malady associated with dirty water and unclean caging and also by very high humidity or when the substrate is wet); internal parasites (roundworms, tapeworms, amebiasis (causes extensive damage to the intestinal lining and liver), trichomoniasis (causes inappetence, vomiting, and diarrhea).
Some of the above-mentioned can be treated by over-the-counter medications sold at local pet stores. However, some require a visit to your local vet who specializes in herps. And yes, some of the above can be fatal.
Check out this website that lists other diseases, etc. that I have not mentioned:
http://www.animalhospitals-usa.com/repti...
If you go to petco.com you can go to the caresheets and it will tell you about a few diesease and red flags.
Good Luck
*Krstl*

Differance between a tortoise and a turtle?


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Tortoises are the land dwellers that we know.
Turtles live in the ocean.
EDIT: Yes, not just in the ocean, also in freshwater.
Yes there is a huge difference.
Tortoise lives exclusively on land. Turtles live in the water, fresh and salt.
I believe the difference is that turtles can swim and tortiose are land animals. Not entirely sure.
Tortoises are terrestrial, turtles are aquatic (either fresh water or sea water).
A tortoise is mostly what you see, like where I live in desert, place a turtle is most comman with a area of water more! Tortoise, is a little more hard in schell, then a trutle! They have more of dark color of a brown and trutle has more color of a green tint!
tortoise are bigger and live longer ther lazy and dont live in water turtles are smaller active and swim
this is a turtle
http://www.felixcam.com/

this is a tortoise
http://www.tortoise.org/gallery/picruss.
A tortoise is a land turtle and rarely get wet. A turtle goes in the water and on land. What ever you deside to get you can find it at www.reptilecity.com
Tortoises have penises and turtles have vaginas.
Jeffery the Great has spoken!

Did you know people eat alligators?

my mom says where she lives there is a resturant where they serve alligator meat and they serve ostrich soup, yuk DX.
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Yes, actually. Alligator is especially popular in the Bayou area, such as New Orleans. It really does taste like chicken, except with a chewier and rubbery consistency. As said by the other person, it isn't that rare. You should consider trying it. As for the ostrich soup, I have heard of people eating ostrich, but not ostrich soup. I've never had it but honestly it sounds kind of gross. People eat a lot of strange things, bugs, kangaroos, dogs, some cats. It depends a lot on culture and what foods people gew up with.
Hope this help!
alligator meat isnt that rare.. its actually not bad and tastes like chicken.
Ew. Maybe their culture is prone to eating that, like Korea eats dog meat (I know, tragic ain't it)!
yummy... i'm hungry now
I didn't know that. Well u know what they say. U learn something everyday.
Well. Alligators been eating people for a while. The alligators say people taste like chicken.
gator meat is actually pretty good.taste like chicken
yup, plenty of people find alligators and ostriches good enough to eat, literally
You won't find alligator steaks on many restaurant menus but alligator is actually very good. And yes it does remind me of Chicken.. So does Rattlesnake...LOL
Yes. People do eat alligators.
I was visiting some friends in florida and we went to a restaurant that served alligator. I ordered fried gator tails. They taste like chicken, but are much greasier. ^^;

Desert King Snake Feeding?

Does anybody feed their snake multiple pinky mice at once? My Desert King snake eats two in one sitting every week, is it okay to do this? Thanks.
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Snakes can eat prey that is the width of the largest part of their body. If your snake is taking more than one pinky mouse a week, you might want to move up to fuzzies or even larger if he's ready for it.
Eating more than one item ends up being a waste of energy. Your snake has to strike, constrict, then swallow and digest his prey. If he's doing that multiple times, then it's just taking that much more energy from him.
Also, you don't want to make the mistake of power feeding. This is where a snake is overfed to make it grow larger, faster. While the snakes do grow quickly, this type of feeding takes a toll on the heart and other vital organs and can reduce your snake's lifespan.
Don't worry about moving up to a larger size mouse. It sounds like your snake is probably ready for it.
Yes, but you should feed it progressively larger mice, as larger mice have more nutrition and less fat.

Dark black spots igunnas help asap hurry it up?

over the past few days ive seen my iguana has black spots on hes back wat could this be or does it mean hes healthy? pleaz let me know asap thanks tyler
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Could be a sign of stress. If they go away after it's back in its cage, it may just be that it isn't used to you or it is getting cold.
Just Google the symptoms, I suggest that because it will take less time than waiting for someone to tell you, plus too many people will say different things. If you Google it, and find a few reliable sites, you are more likely to be able to help your iguana if there is something wrong. Personally, I have no experience with iguanas or reptiles at all, but I have a lot of experience looking up stuff. Quick! Google! Or Yahoo!, but I find that Yahoo! is a better homepage while Google is a better search engine.
How old is your ig? How long have you owned him/her? You may be noticing him getting ready to shed (a discoloration may occur - though it is usually a "greying" effect - not black spots). The ig may have mites and you may be seeing the effect of those mites under the skin. If you can't determine if s/he's shedding, then seek help from a vet. If they are mites, they can be treated easily.
If you are new to igs..these things will become less scary over time...Remain calm, as you get to know your animal and what is "normal" for him/her.
You rudely demand people to hurry up. Why don't YOU hurry up and take your iguana to a VET?! Get off your lazy butt, stop wasting time on the computer and do the responsible thing.
It is your pet's RIGHT BY LAW to receive proper medical care and to deny it is abuse. If you can't or won't get your pet to a vet and provide responsible care, then you have no right to have one.
It could be a fungal infection . It could be poop or several other things . Try giving him a warm bath , cleaning the cage and if its still there take him to a good reptile vet for a check up .If its fungus he will need treatment .

Cumberland turtle?

I have recently bought 2 cumbrian semi aquatic turtles. I'm aware that in time they will need a lot bigger tank. I was wondering if anyone knows of a good website that sells larger turtle tanks?
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i have 3 cumberland sliders and 1 yellow bellied terrapin at the moment, if females your sliders will get to approx 14 inches across the shell. males only stay smaller around 8 inches.
as well as the tank size, please make sure you have adequate UV lighting for them, and more than adequate filtration, for terrapins / sliders, the best way to do it is filter for double your tank. if you have a 4 foot tank, put enough filtrarion in for a 8 foot. terrapins / sliers are dirty eaters and you will need plenty of filtration to keep up with them.
I bought my tank from Seapets, not only were they cheaper there, they deliver free of charge. By the way, what are Cumbrian turtles? I live in Cumbria and have never heard of them. I think this is a leg pull.
http://www.turtlesale.com/home/index.php...